In Episode 86, George Festus Blamoh, Soccer and Life Coach, Liberia Country Director for Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Humanitarian and Disaster Leader for Samaritan’s Purse and AFLA, Ambassador to the United Nations, and Former Goalkeeper for...
In Episode 86, George Festus Blamoh, Soccer and Life Coach, Liberia Country Director for Fellowship of Christian Athletes, Humanitarian and Disaster Leader for Samaritan’s Purse and AFLA, Ambassador to the United Nations, and Former Goalkeeper for the Liberian National Team and Liberia Premier League, talks with Phil about his incredible story and how he has used soccer in great ways to achieve his dreams and impact others in massive ways in Liberia and beyond. Specifically, George discusses:
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from Liberia. We have George Blamoh and I am very excited. George has an incredible story that we're going to be able to hear today. he's got all kinds of degrees.
He is an ambassador. He played on the national team. I mean, I could go on and on about his resume. Rather than doing that. I'd rather just hear from George about his story and hear from him all the great things that has been going [00:01:00] on in his life and that God's been doing through him. So, George, how are you doing today?
[00:01:06] George: Well I'm doing very great Phil and it is a great privilege to be on your platform to share my life story.
[00:01:14] Phil: Well, let's get right to it, man. I just want to hear from you and just share with our audience. I'm, I'm guessing that most people listening have not heard of you unless you shared it with them.
And they're like, oh, I can't wait to hear George, but for all those people in, and they may not know your full story either. So for all those folks out there who don't know you, can you just share your story and then, then I'll be able to follow up on that and we can just have good conversation.
Well, I'm George Festus Blamoh from Liberia, west Africa, and coming from Africa, there are a lot of challenges that we face as a young person. And so growing up all positive young man, I have two strikes against me, one coming from a poor family, and two, [00:02:00] coming from a nation, that'd been ravished by civil war.
Liberia has gone through 14 years of civil war and the civil war was very devastating. And during that time, no one could be able to fulfill their dream. At that time, it coming from a broken family, I could not even afford. So how food meat on my table. And so I have a lot, a lot of challenges and want to hope that I have was my soccer ability as a young man.
It was my sense of security. It was my ticket out of my poverty. It was my ticket out of the broken nation that I came out of. And so during that time I put in all of my strength, my ability to play as a goalie and got. My space on the national soccer team.
Yeah. You know, and that's something that we already, there's a bond cause I'm a goalkeeper as well.
And so, you know, [00:03:00] we go, he's got to stick together. As I've said, there's goalies always have to have a little bit of crazy in them. Right. You know? So I assume you have a little bit of crazy in you, which is, I think, why you've been able to do a lot of the things there's a lot of people have said. You can't do things and, and you just saying, well, if you tell me I can't do it, I'm gonna, I'm going to make sure to do it right.
And so I know that that's been a big part of your story. You've had people tell you, you can't do some things. Can you get into that a little bit, as far as those, those conversations that you've had with people and how they've inspired you actually strangely the negative conversations you've had, it inspired you to be where you are today.
Can you talk about.
[00:03:39] George: Right. So as a young man growing up, I, I have the ability to play as a goalie, but then I have grit reflexes as a goalie. I go bounce back in the shot and bring that shot down. But however, Physically, I was not strong. So one of my coaches say, George, or [00:04:00] even though you have lot of reflexes and come out for you, but you need some strength tool to play for you.
And so he said, because you are not physically strong, I'm not seeing you having a future in the game of soccer. And I think one of the skills that I learned in soccer is courage and endurance. And when he said that, I think there was something that came out of that, that give me a lot of perseverance and endurance and courage for the game of soccer.
And I continue what I was doing. I developed my skills and the rest of the story. I was able to be recruited on the Liberian national soccer team, played several years on the national soccer team play professional soccer and other. It was content that whatever you said was wrong and I was able to achieve as a great soccer goalie in Liberia.
So it's not [00:05:00] always what people say is sometimes you got to look inside of you and see what God has for you.
[00:05:06] Phil: Yeah. And I love that what you said there is, and I hope people caught that, that you talked about the lessons you learned from the game actually taught you what you needed to know to get through that time and to be able to continue pushing through.
Right. Which is, which is what I love about this show that we can, you said courage and endurance. Right. And that's what it took to get through there. And it also took courage and endurance to get. some of those degrees, that, that there's another story there that can you, can you share that as far as your education?
I mean, which is, which is amazing. And, and, and I, I, I hope people understand as you're talking, you know, I've, I've met a lot of people from, from around the world and to do what you've done is. grit. It takes that courage. It takes the endurance. And can you share the story about your education journey and also how that was another story of, you know, this is w we don't, a lot of us in America don't understand a lot of this, [00:06:00] because I think we're told in America, you can do anything you want to do.
You can do whatever you want. You just go out and work hard enough and you do it, but that's not the, that's not the encouragement. Let's say lack of encouragement you receive when you were a kid, when it came to education, can you speak to that right now?
[00:06:14] George: Well, as I grew up in a broken family a lot of challenges, both my parents did not have the time to graduate from high school. And so a young men in the community said, "listen, George, you have everything encouraging, but because your parent did not have a high school education, it is not possible that you can have a college education because you grew up in the slum and it's not possible for the slum to come out of you." and so. Growing up as a young man, soccer was my ability. Soccer was my tickets. I used my summer indication. Do I apply my high school education? I got a scholarship to play on my high school. I was a captain for my high school in 1991. I was able to take my high school [00:07:00] in the high school championship.
And we won the high school championship in 1991. And that gave me a ticket to play in the first division league in Liberia. I played several years before division and I was recruited. In on the national soccer team of Liberia. And after several years, I was also recruited to be a professional goalkeeper outside of Liberia. After several years, while I played professional soccer, I did not know Jesus as my Lord and savior. And so. We won the championship. And so I decided to go on a cruise. While on that cruise, there was a severe storm that came on our boat and this, this storm was so severe that I was afraid.. I didn't know how to pray. And so out of fear, I cried out to God, I said, God, if you rescue my life, I'd give the rest of my life to you.
Few hours later, the engine revived and we've made a Sydney and I committed my life to Christ. And after that, I was [00:08:00] recruited to serve as Country Director for Athletes in Action. I did that for seven years. Mentoring young leaders through sports. Using sport has a platform to raise up leadership in Liberia and across the globe.
I have a privilege also to serve us a chaplain at the London Olympics in London, providing chaplaincy for elite athletes. I also have an opportunity to serve as a chaplain of the 20 10, 10 World Cup in South Africa. Provided leadership and mentoring for elite athlete during the world cup as well. At certain point in my life, at age 40, I realized that the Lord was calling me to higher leadership.
And I thought it wise for me to be a great leader, I needed to go back to school at 40. Remember Phil, at 40. That is the middle of my life. When others throw in the towel at 40, it was when I decided to go back to school. And so I sent an application in the [00:09:00] U S and I got a scholarship to study intercultural studies and constantly at 40, I was in class with kids young enough to be my own kids. And one of the kids looked at me and say, Hey George, you're an old man. What are you doing here? There's no future for you. And so what are you going to do with the education? And I told him that I have said in global leadership for several years, but I'm here back to school because I feel that God was calling me to something higher.
But then back in Liberia, a man told me, George, you can never acquire college education because your parent did not have the opportunity to have one. If you can not have that. So I'm 40. I went back to school and it was shocking, Phil, that at 40, the middle of my life, I graduated Summa Cum Laude and won a prestigious award.
The Oscar Johnson Award for excellence in scholarship. And then when I graduated, I felt that that was not the end of my life. [00:10:00] I felt that God was calling me to something bigger. And so I had the opportunity to attend one of the conferences in New York. And one of the guy will, come ahead, Josh, what is your vision?
I said, well, I think I want to do my master degree. He said, how old are you? At the time I was 45. He said, 45 going for Masters? That's not possible. You can never achieve that. So, okay. Just watch me. And I had an opportunity to have a scholarship for both Wheaton college graduate school in humanitarian disaster leadership, and also Gordon Conwell
theological seminary in Massachusetts, and I was accepted to do double master degree at the age 45. It's still wrong. My mission in Liberia and the rest of the world. And it was shock you. I graduated playing with distinction and we'll also have been appointed ambassador [00:11:00] to the United Nations and I had time to speak at the 76th general assembly about food insecurity in Africa, it is always possible when you say yes to your vision.
[00:11:16] Phil: The, I mean, that's something that folks, if you didn't hear all that, or you didn't actually catch all that.
I just want to encourage you go back and listen, because what you heard there was him being told as a young man, young kid, you can't do it. You can't get education because you're poor because you are from the slums because your parents didn't go to school. All these things that, you know, we're told, we can't do a lot of things in life and you didn't listen.
Instead, you said, no, I can do this. And I think soccer was, you said that was what taught you a lot of the life lessons. That was your ticket. Yes. But it's just, cause it's a ticket. A lot of people have a ticket with something [00:12:00] and they don't use it. They don't, they don't redeem that ticket. Right. But as you said that at 40, going back to school, Getting your master's at Wheaton college and Gordon Conwell.
I mean, those are no slouch schools.
So these are great schools that you're able to go to. And then, you know, if that weren't enough, that's pretty amazing, cool stuff. But then. You're an ambassador you're pointed ambassador and get to speak in front of the UN on food insecurity. Like that is amazing that the fact that, that the number of people that are able to do that is so small.
And this is a guy who was told you can't even get a college education, let alone be able to you know, speak in front of the UN. Like that's just amazing. So let's take it the next step and say, what, what are you doing with. As you talked about, you had a vision to do that. Now I know because I know the conversations we've had, you have a vision to do a whole lot more, and God has given you this vision.
[00:13:00] So what does that look like now in the work you're doing in Liberia, you're working with AFLA and Liberia FCA as well. And Samaritan's purse if I'm, if I'm not mistaken there. So can you just share about the work that you're doing in Liberia and really how soccer has encouraged you and what your lessons you learned from soccer are helping you in that work that you're doing in Liberia?
[00:13:25] George: Well, first I want to give recognition to people, the laws across. To stand on the shoulder to become what I am today. And I did not have a father figure, but God has a sense of humor. He brought fathers in my life who served as mentors. And one of those people has to do with Jonathan Detwiler who is currently in.
CSRM international coordinator. CSR M is Church Sports recreation ministry. Jonathan and I got connected through Athletes in [00:14:00] Action. At the time, Jonathan was the international partnership director of Athletes in Action in the Netherlands. And I was the director for Liberia. And over the years, Jonathan was one person that kept telling me. It is possible. Keep pressing on it is possible. And so I want to give recognition to him. I want to respect his leadership.
I want to respect his mentorship. He has poured into my life a whole lot. And coming back to your question, and I think I owe that to the younger generation in Liberia. Motion has been invested into me. God has used a lot of people, lot of circumstances to invest into my life. And so currently what I'm doing.
And investing into the younger generation in Liberia that have gone through 14 years of crisis, 14 years of trauma, 14 years of, of brokenness, and also have gone through Ebola that has caused a lot of trauma, a [00:15:00] lot of death. I consider my country has a fatherless generation. So part of what I'm doing, I'm serving as the mentor, providing mentorship, whole life coaching, then there is tool that I'm currently using called the whole life coaching soccer to whole life coaching or Bubba, no provide about 23 soccer skills that also provides a life skills, but is on a basic then the core principle.
So what I do most of the time with them when I'm running a soccer clinic and I used some time a shooting drill. And so the life skill for shooting has to do a responsibility. Of course, you see a lot of young people who are out of the civil war does not understand what it means to take responsibility. So when we provide us soccer skill for them about taking responsibility, Yeah.
Also able to connect from your soccer skill that when I'm able to shoot on goal, they will do a achieve soccer goal. I'm taking [00:16:00] responsibility in life. Yeah. Able to connect that with life. And I'm also involved in trauma healing. Counseling. As a nation that has gone through healing, it is important that we are able to rebuild the minds of your people.
It is easy to reconstruct buildings, but it takes a lot of barrier to reconstruct the minds of young people. And so that is what I'm involved in currently in Liberia. You also mentioned my work with Samaritan's Purse. I'm also part of the disaster team with Samaritan's Purse, Samaritan's Purse response to civil disaster.
And so it is the part-time job for me, but there's some disaster. They recruit me to go into different parts of the world to provide healing into those broken countries. Of course I have not experienced civil war. I think I'm in the right place to help people who are going through brokenness as a result of civil war. So I think God has built me holistically to to live [00:17:00] on and off the field of soccer.
[00:17:03] Phil: Yeah. You know, that's something that I love hearing Just how you're using the gifts that you have, as you said, soccer had a whole life training. Like that's all we talk about on this show all the time. You know, Shaun Smithson with FCA is the one who connected us and I, and, and I'm so glad he did, because it sounds like we have very similar hearts that, that we're saying.
This game is much more than a game. I mean, it's, it's provided you not just a, a vehicle and a bridge to be able to get education, to be able to become an ambassador, be able to do this amazing work, but it's also something that you, we can actually use the lessons to teach the children, to teach the adults in our communities.
[00:17:45] George: Excellent. Now I will say there's that soccer has provided a lot of resiliency in my life. There was so many reason why I should throw in the towel. I mean, coming from a nation that is working in this one that is considered to be the [00:18:00] second poorest country in the world, in the world. How did I get to the point of acquiring two master's degree from the United States?
It has to do with resiliency coming from a poor family. When we couldn't find meat for the family. When we couldn't have good shelter over our heads,
how did that come to the point of being a life coach? It's a book and a family helping younger generation to find hope in life. It has to do with this skills of soccer that provided me with a lot of resiliency. I think it is just more than a game. Soccer provides a life skills. And if we can see just beyond the soccer skills, I think we can see leadership skills within soccer.
[00:18:45] Phil: Amen to that. I love hearing that. I love the passion because I think we're wasting a lot of the life skills that soccer can teach because we're focusing too much on winning. Have you seen that? Even in Africa, [00:19:00] have you, I know that in the U S we have our youth, especially, they are focused on winning a lot of time.
It's just winning, getting the scholarship, getting to the next level, getting whatever, rather than learning these life lessons that can actually teach us how to get to the next level in life. Right. So what do we want to think about that?
[00:19:21] George: Well, I'm a living example, Phil. I came at a point in my soccer life where everything went wrongly. One issue tell me that I couldn't play soccer anymore. And besides that, I had a lot of unresolved pain that I couldn't deal with myself, or just the soccer skill not just provide, I have to get from the higher power. Jesus had to come in my life to, to bring a lot of healing in my life. Even though I have all of this soccer ability, I was winning in my soccer life, but I was still dealing with the pain and the brokenness of the father that was absent in my life.[00:20:00]
Once when I was able to encounter Jesus who gave me a higher meaning for life and with the soccer skill, able to integrate that to become a better person in society. I think just focusing on winning it's temporary, because if you just focus on winning after that game is over and you just remain in this cycle of emptiness and it can offer you a meaningful life.
[00:20:23] Phil: Meaningfully.
Yeah. You know, and I think we could talk for hours and hours on that, on that issue and how we can be better at that, but I, I just think to be able to have to hear you training and using these lessons .You've learned with the young people and other people throughout Liberia is awesome because I, I hope that they are, you know, this that's, what I love is just the story of.
Soccer is one of those tools that you as a man who, if you look on paper should never have made it. But you using the [00:21:00] skills in these lessons to motivate you and not only motivate you, but give you the actual tools to be able to make it to that next level. And so one of the things that I want to, I want to just focus on is, is your, your work that you are actually doing in these communities.
You have a quote that you, you wrote in an article that we will link to. It's an article that is part of Christianity today blog, but it's a great article that you wrote. and there's a quote in there. I want, I want you to talk and expand on a little bit, but you said, I believe that when we are able to listen to our community, it creates openness and a trustworthy relationship between us and our community. Christianity is not what we do, but who we are. It's not just doing, but being. I think it is important to have the right heart and mind while engaging our communities and creating awareness to help the hurting people around us. Skills are important, but skills [00:22:00] without the right hearts and minds lead us to bitterness and prejudice.
And I just want you to speak to that in a world right now that is very divided that's very you know, you talked about a civil war in Liberia over the last 14 years of Bola civil war in the U S we've had we, I mean, we don't have an actual civil war, but we are so divided in the United States and I don't think that's unique to our countries. I think it's something that is going on around the world where people are just divided. People are it's an us versus them mentality. It seems a lot of the times, and a lot of people could say, well, soccer actually exacerbates. That makes that worse because it's a it's you have to win and lose.
But I think if we go to what we just talked about and we understand that we are all people. And as you said, it starts with listening, but can you expand on that and how you've actually seen that play out in real life in the work that you're doing? [00:23:00]
[00:23:00] George: I think firstly, Phil, listening is a door to empathy.
We cannot have a sense of empathy for our community if we cannot listen. And not just listening to pass judgment, but listening it to create a sense of empathy level in our heart. And to understand as to see where people are at within their own life and growing up in a broken community, it was so easy to judge me for point of the failures of my parents and the failures of my community, the failures of my own country.
Liberia. But I think there are a lot of silent cries within our community that no one is giving that if only we can listen to the silent cry, I think there are a lot of hope that we can bring within those communities. Growing up as an African tribe, one of the things [00:24:00] that we were taught is that men don't cry. And so we grew up internalizing our pain. And sometime we cry so loud and nobody hear us because men actually don't cry. And so in order for us to listen to our community, I think we need to just break that breach and create a sense of relationship within our community and how to do that. It's to be very authentic and intentional in building relationship.
I think we have so many shattered relationship within our community only because we pre-judge people, eh, we live in prejudice and, and that create a lot of boundaries between us and our community. And I think the best way we can do that is listening with empathy. Listening to understand, come in the space of other [00:25:00] people and understand what, what the other watch like a country like, Liberia where there are a lot of young people who lost their parents.
We have a lot of wayward youth and if we cannot listen to that crowd, we cannot create a sense of hope for them. We have to understand where they are before we can be able to reach to them.
[00:25:20] Phil: You know, and as I think about the game, Of soccer in, in this regard, we look at our teams and our teams are composed of people coming from completely different backgrounds usually. especially when you talk about a national team, I imagine when you were on the national team, your team was probably comprised of people from very different backgrounds, There were probably some people who were from very poor, some people who are from wealthier homes, some people who are from, the elite I imagine, and you, you gotta come together and create a team.
Can you talk about that? I mean, and I, I make an assumption there, but I mean, correct me if I'm [00:26:00] wrong, but I imagine that that listening and understanding each other to be able to play together as a team was something you had to do when you came together on that team. Is that, is that.
[00:26:13] George: Right. And first thing you have to understand that Liberia's civil wars were rooted in a lot of tribal conflict.
And so we have people who are from those tribes that were perceived as conflict or people who brought the conflict on a nation. And it was shock you to understand that during the civil war in Liberia, soccer was the unifying force. The culture was so divided that then when the National Team was playing the only uniting force that we had was national soccer team, and that was able to unite us as a nation that was going through civil war. If we were able to understand that we are one nation and one people, why? Because, soccer create the environment. [00:27:00] And so I, when I look at soccer, it provide good teamwork and team building, and you'll have to live far beyond yourself and able to understand the scope of the other person.
I have people who never had the skill that I have, but who were part of my team. And the first thing that I needed to do is to respect the individual and love them as an individual and know that they are part of my team. We cannot have a successful game without team building and teamwork, and one person I'm individual, I cannot make a team.
It takes collective effort to make a team. And for that to happen, you have to respect each individual on the team. And so that there'll be a lot of skills in my life and my leadership ability about team building.
[00:27:53] Phil: No. I love that. I love that. You know, some people would look at the Liberian national team and say, [00:28:00] oh, I don't ever remember seeing them in the World Cup.
Because as far as I'm aware, you haven't been. But to see the success that's come out of it, all we need to do is look at you. And I imagine you're not the only success story coming out of that world cup team, right. Toes, to be able to say the value of these teams and of the opportunities that are created through them is just amazing.
It's just amazing to see that I remember similar story in the world cup when ivory coast was in it, and they actually paused the civil war that was raging in the country to watch. And that is the power of this sport. Not just for a country, but for the people that are playing it, if we allow it to be rather than focusing on the wrong things, and that's what we're hoping to do on this show.
And I appreciate you and your story and hearing that to be able to, to just know that. Yeah, man. It's just so encouraging to me, I'm almost at a loss for words is how [00:29:00] encouraged I am by your story. So can you just share how people can connect with you and be able to understand better the work that you're doing and how they might be able to connect and help out in any way?
[00:29:14] George: Well, I want to say thank you so much for the opportunity. I'm a member of. Fellowship of Christian athletes and I'm also part of Church Sports Recreational ministry. And so you can get me through my FCA, or you can get me through CSRM.org, or GeorgeBlamoh@csrm.org, or you get me through FCA. Org, and you can see what I do with it.
You can be willing to invest into what I do I do in Liberia. And it will go a long way, because sports is a universal language. Liberian's are crazy about soccer? And the average youth in Liberia is between the ages [00:30:00] 12 to 16, and is a population of 73% of our overall population, young population.
And so soccer provide that leadership. Soccer, provide that mentorship, soccer provide that holistic development. Soccer is the bridge-builder for where we are going as a nation coming from civil war to reconstruction, healing, and transformation. So if you can check me out on CSRM.org and FCA.Org, and you can be able to address it to what I'm doing, you are building into lives in Liberia.
[00:30:37] Phil: And I love that. And so we will have those links on the show notes. You're also on LinkedIn, George Blamoh we'll have that there. You can connect all, have those links on the show notes. If you want to connect with George and just to learn more about what he's doing in Liberia with, with some amazing people, amazing organizations.
So FCA, CSR. Absolutely love what both those organizations are [00:31:00] doing all around the world. And I know my, my daughter actually started an FCA chapter at her high school a few years ago. And so very, much love that organization and what I love that you're a part of it. All right. Couple more questions that we have for everybody.
And I would love to hear from you. I know you've used lessons from the beautiful game in your own life, in not just your soccer life, but in your education, to become an ambassador, all these other amazing things. But how have you also use those life lessons that you've learned from the game in your personal relationships?
[00:31:37] George: Well I think Soccer has provided this skills of service to me because one of the skill of soccer is long passes and short passes.
and maybe scoring with pass and that life skill for them. It has to do with connectedness and service. And I think as a [00:32:00] leader, in my own family, I have to be a leader that provides service to my whole family. I have to be a leader able to connect to my own family and I think soccer has done that a whole lot. It has shown me a lot of compassion.
It has shown me how to build relationship with people. It has shown me a lot to become selfless in the game of soccer, one thing is that if you are not in a strategic position to finish the pass, to convert it to goal, you have to give that pass to a person who is in the strategic position. And part of that is passing the Baton to the next generation.
And I think I'm doing that very well with my own kids, becoming a father to my own children. And passing that baton so at the end of my life, they can become the legacy that I have left them. And I think that is spot on for my end.
[00:32:56] Phil: That is so good. That is so good. I love that [00:33:00] this selflessness of the pass. And that's sometimes you even have a shot, but to make that pass because somebody is in a better position.
And as you said, passing the Baton to our children, passing the Baton to the next generation or our communities passing the Baton to the spiritual leadership. I mean, that is such a massive part of leadership that I think so many people miss is that succession. If we are not training up leaders behind us, it's going to stop.
Whatever we're doing, we'll end with us. And that that's not leadership. That's not leadership. And I, that goes for soccer teams as well. That Liberia national team, you pass the Baton to the next goalkeeper. You pass the Baton to the next leaders and that's, that's just part of great legacy vision in any organization.
If you don't have a legacy vision, your vision is too small. And if you do have a legacy vision, it has to be beyond yourself and it has to be passing a Baton to [00:34:00] someone. So, appreciate you on that. Any, anything to add?
[00:34:05] George: Well, I think in a nation like Liberia, one of the things that I'm also focusing on is to teach younger people soft skills, how to solve problems.
And I think soccer provide those skills as well. You have to think faster as a goalie having short range shots against me to think what step to take to make sure I make the save. And I think problem solving is key into leadership and a nation that is coming from civil war and helping younger people to solve problems having critical thinking.
I think that is very much important for the younger generation.
[00:34:46] Phil: Yeah, and I have no doubt we could we could talk for many hours about all the life lessons. I love what I love that you're doing. And I do want to, if you have do you have that book that [00:35:00] life skills through soccer? Do you have that or through football, do you have that in writing.
That we could, we could yes, that would be fantastic. Yes,
[00:35:08] George: I can check. I can share that with you after this interview -- it is called UBABALO eAfrica Whole Life Soccer Coaching
and it has about 26 soccer skill. It has life skill connected to the soccer skill, And I want to say, Phil, that's one of the foundation to soccer skill is it's biblical foundation. If all that we do does not have biblical principle, it's not last long last, because I think faith has been one of my, one of the internal parts of five lines, faith has helped me a whole lot to become the leader that I am today.
My faith plays a major role in who I am today. Without my faith in Jesus, I can never be what I am today. And so we want to help younger [00:36:00] people to know Jesus as well as we develop leadership life skills
[00:36:04] Phil: in it. Yeah, without that everything falls, right. I mean, that's, that's the, pillar.
Because it's absolute, it's, it's talk about legacy. Talk about something that lasts. That's something that is truth. It will never, it will never fail. And and so that's something I love here and we will be able to, to have that. Can I share that whole life coaching book with. Okay. So we'll have that.
We'll have that in the show notes as well. And I encourage you. If you, if you take that, hopefully you'll take it. You'll be able to learn some great things from it. And then, you know, reach out to George and, and, and help out with him in the ministry that he's doing in the, in the different work that he's doing in Liberia.
Because as he said, he is able to impact the youth, the next generation in Liberia in ways that. Most people, if you're not in Liberia and you're not from Liberia, you're not going to be able to have that same impact that [00:37:00] George can have. So I encourage you to help him to work with him, to, partner with him in some way.
And so you use that book as well. And, and, and to be able to, I have no doubt it will be able to translate and. For to wherever you are, to be able to, to learn these life lessons, because that's something that that's why we do this show is to be able to connect people with each other who have great tools for us to be able to use.
So thank you for that, George. And the last question that, that we have is another resource question. It's it's what have you read, watched or listened to that has informed your thinking and help you understand that soccer does explain life and leadership.