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The Only Thing That Matters with Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, Former Cornell Athlete, and Author

In Episode 169, Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, Former Cornell Lacrosse and Football player, and Author of Influence and the Creator’s Game, talks with Phil and Paul about his extensive experience in sports, business, leadership, and ministry,...

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The Only Thing That Matters with Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, Former Cornell Athlete, and Author
April 16, 2025

The Only Thing That Matters with Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, Former Cornell Athlete, and Author

In Episode 169, Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, Former Cornell Lacrosse and Football player, and Author of Influence and the Creator’s Game, talks with Phil and Paul about his extensive experience in sports, business, leadership, and ministry,...
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Season 12 Halftime Show with Phil and Paul
April 2, 2025

Season 12 Halftime Show with Phil and Paul

In Episode 168, Phil and Paul discuss their highlights from the first half of HSEL’s Season 12, as well as some personal and professional updates. They talk about their conversations with Wells Thompson, Don Williams, and Brad Kenney, as well as...
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Music, Soccer, and Leadership with Pete Kipley, Founder of Bolta Soccer and Music Producer - RECAST
March 19, 2025

Music, Soccer, and Leadership with Pete Kipley, Founder of Bolta Soccer and Music Producer - RECAST

In Episode 167, we are recasting our interview with Pete Kipley, Founder of Bolta Soccer, Music Producer and Songwriter, in which he talks with Phil about his journey from being a music producer to opening a soccer training facility in Nashville. He...
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Priorities, Values, and Player Development – HSEL Extra Time with Paul and Phil
March 5, 2025

Priorities, Values, and Player Development – HSEL Extra Time with Paul and Phil

In Episode 166 of How Soccer Explains Leadership, hosts Phil Darke and Paul Jobson discuss the intersection of youth soccer, leadership, priorities, and family values. Through personal and professional experience, they address the importance of...
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From Performance to Purpose and Calling with Brad Kenney, Soccer Chaplains United Founder and Colorado Rapids Chaplain
Feb. 20, 2025

From Performance to Purpose and Calling with Brad Kenney, Soccer Chaplains United Founder and Colorado Rapids Chaplain

In Episode 165, Brad Kenney, Founder and Executive Director of Soccer Chaplains United and Colorado Rapids Chaplain, talks with Phil about he has blended his passion for soccer, ministry, and leadership. Brad shares his personal story of his...
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Finding the Right Fit with Don Williams, SRUSA Head of Operations (Americas)
Feb. 6, 2025

Finding the Right Fit with Don Williams, SRUSA Head of Operations (Americas)

In Episode 164, we have another great interview with Don Williams, SRUSA Head of Operations for the Americas and former college coach at every level. He talks with Paul and Phil about modern trends impacting youth soccer and college recruitment. They...
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Paul Jobson

husband, dad, former head coach of Baylor Women's Soccer (sic 'em), co-founder of Warrior Way Soccer, former collegiate footballer

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Phil Darke

husband, dad, author, podcast host, president of Providence World, recovering attorney, connector, catalyst, collaborator, coach, Man Utd supporter, facilitator of flourishing