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HSEL 2025 Year-End Special – Top 5 Episodes and Highlights

In Episode 187, Phil and Paul reflect on their top HSEL episodes and their personal highlights of 2025. They discuss lessons learned from various guests, personal highs and lows, including transitions in their careers and fam...

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Dec. 24, 2025

HSEL 2025 Year-End Special – Top 5 Episodes and Highlights

In Episode 187, Phil and Paul reflect on their top HSEL episodes and their personal highlights of 2025. They discuss lessons learned from various guests, personal highs and lows, including transitions in their careers and fam...
Dec. 10, 2025

Carl Dambman – Wrestling with Faith and Leadership

In Episode 186, Carl Dambman, Athletes in Action Missionary, Olympic Wrestler, Author of In God’s Grip , husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about his unique journey with wrestling and pioneering sports ministry beh...
Nov. 26, 2025

Warren Mainard – Impact Players & Audacious Authenticity

In Episode 185, Warren Mainard, Executive Director of Impact Players, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about how his tennis career shaped his approach to life and leadership. The conversation covers the importanc...
Nov. 13, 2025

Season 13 Halftime Show – Redeeming Your Time

In Episode 184, Phil and Paul reflect on the first half of Season 13, discussing highlights from their conversations with Greg Rubendall, Rick McKinley, Becca Darke, and Peter Greer. They also talk about ways we can redeem ti...
Oct. 29, 2025

Peter Greer - Avoiding Personal Mission Drift and Finishing Well

In Episode 183, we are sharing with you an interview from Phil's other podcast, Think Global, Do Justice, with Peter Greer, President of Hope International and Author of How Leaders Lose Their Way and How to Make Sure It Does...
Oct. 15, 2025

Becca Darke – Overcoming Injuries, Receiving Identity, and Making Room

In Episode 182, Becca Darke, Colorado College Women’s Soccer Hall of Famer, former PE Teacher, former Athletes in Action staff, mother of five, and, yes, wife of Phil, shares with Phil and Paul about her journey from hockey-c...

About the Hosts

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Paul Jobson

husband, dad, former head coach of Baylor Women's Soccer (sic 'em), co-founder of Warrior Way Soccer, former collegiate footballer

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Phil Darke

husband, dad, author, podcast host, president of Providence World, recovering attorney, connector, catalyst, collaborator, coach, Man Utd supporter, facilitator of flourishing