Episodes

April 16, 2025

The Only Thing That Matters with Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, …

In Episode 169, Frank Kelly, CEO of Kelly Benefits, Former Cornell Lacrosse and Football player, and Author of Influence and the Creator’s Game, talks with Phil and Paul about his extensive experience in sports, business, leadership, and ministry,...

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April 2, 2025

Season 12 Halftime Show with Phil and Paul

In Episode 168, Phil and Paul discuss their highlights from the first half of HSEL’s Season 12, as well as some personal and professional updates. They talk about their conversations with Wells Thompson, Don Williams, and Brad Kenney, as well as...

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March 19, 2025

Music, Soccer, and Leadership with Pete Kipley, Founder of Bolta Socc…

In Episode 167, we are recasting our interview with Pete Kipley, Founder of Bolta Soccer, Music Producer and Songwriter, in which he talks with Phil about his journey from being a music producer to opening a soccer training facility in Nashville. He...

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March 5, 2025

Priorities, Values, and Player Development – HSEL Extra Time with Pau…

In Episode 166 of How Soccer Explains Leadership, hosts Phil Darke and Paul Jobson discuss the intersection of youth soccer, leadership, priorities, and family values. Through personal and professional experience, they address the importance of...

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Feb. 20, 2025

From Performance to Purpose and Calling with Brad Kenney, Soccer Chap…

In Episode 165, Brad Kenney, Founder and Executive Director of Soccer Chaplains United and Colorado Rapids Chaplain, talks with Phil about he has blended his passion for soccer, ministry, and leadership. Brad shares his personal story of his...

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Feb. 6, 2025

Finding the Right Fit with Don Williams, SRUSA Head of Operations (Am…

In Episode 164, we have another great interview with Don Williams, SRUSA Head of Operations for the Americas and former college coach at every level. He talks with Paul and Phil about modern trends impacting youth soccer and college recruitment. They...

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Jan. 23, 2025

What Makes a Leader? with Wells Thompson, Co-Founder of Soccer Resili…

In Episode 163, we are kicking off Season 12 with a conversation with Wells Thompson, Former MLS midfielder and 1st Round Draft Pick, Co-Founder of Soccer Resilience, husband, and father. He talked with Paul and Phil about his journey from childhood...

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Jan. 9, 2025

HSEL 2024 Year End Special

In Episode 162, Paul and Phil have a great conversation about their 2024 highlights, including their favorite ministry and family moments, as well as the most impactful books, movies, podcasts, and HSEL episodes they have enjoyed this year. They also...

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Dec. 26, 2024

Insights from the Beautiful Game - HSEL’s Top 13 Highlights of 2024

In Episode 161, we are wrapping up 2024 with our top 13 highlights (plus a bonus clip as our gift to you) from each of our interviews this year. As we step into 2025, we’re showcasing powerful takeaways from our guests, which highlight key...

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Dec. 12, 2024

Gratitude vs. Entitlement with Peter Greer, President/CEO of HOPE Int…

In Episode 160, we are recasting our interview with Peter Greer, President/CEO of HOPE International and former Messiah College footballer, who talked with Paul and Phil about his path from Messiah College to alleviating poverty with Hope...

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Nov. 28, 2024

Are the Xs and Os Really That Important? with Steve Axtell, Cortland …

In Episode 159, we are recasting our conversation with Steven Axtell, Head Coach of Cortland University Men’s Soccer, former Cortland goalkeeper, husband, and father, when we talked about lessons learned from his playing and coaching career,...

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Nov. 14, 2024

College Recruiting 101 with Don Williams of Sports Recruiting USA - R…

In Episode 158, we are re-casting our conversation with Don Williams, Head of Operations for the Americas for Sports Recruiting USA and former coach at all levels of soccer, who talked with Phil about the #1 tool college coaches use to find recruits,...

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Oct. 31, 2024

Transparency, Trust, and Conflict Prevention with Margueritte Aozasa,…

In Episode 157, we are recasting our interview with Margueritte Aozasa, UCLA Women’s Soccer Head Coach, former Stanford Women’s Soccer Assistant Coach, and former Santa Clara University Defender/Midfielder, who talked with us about her incredible...

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Oct. 17, 2024

Using Soccer to Overcome Trauma with David Ricca, 9/11 Survivor and G…

In Episode 156, we are recasting our episode with David Ricca, NJ Youth Soccer Innovate to Grow Consultant, Founder/President of Just Live Soccer, 9/11 Survivor, Soccer Resilience Ambassador, Member of 2010 World Cup Media & Marketing team, former...

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Oct. 3, 2024

Achieved vs. Received Identity with Graham Daniels, Director of Cambr…

In Episode 155, we are recasting one of our favorite interview of all time, going back to last year when Phil and Paul interviewed Graham Daniels, Ph.D., Director of Cambridge United, Director of Christians in Sport, and former player for Cambridge...

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Sept. 19, 2024

Motivational Climate and “Teamship” with Dan Abrahams, Sports Psychol…

In Episode 154, we are recasting our episode with Dan Abrahams, Sports Psychologist, best-selling author of four books, Founder of the Dan Abrahams Soccer Academy and The Sport Psych Show Podcast, and former pro golfer, who talks with Phil about his...

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Sept. 5, 2024

Emotional Intelligence, Insecurities, and the Journey of Growth with …

In Episode 153, we are going way back to the first half of our first season and recasting one of our most impactful and most downloaded interviews. In this conversation, Eric Pfeiffer, Founder and Senior Consultant of MPWR Coaching and Collegiate...

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Aug. 22, 2024

What is Your ANCHOR? with Keeley Hagen, Colorado State Soccer Head Co…

In Episode 152, we are recasting our episode with Keeley Hagen, Colorado State Head Coach, former assistant coach at University of Texas and University of Tennessee, former USWNT, Sky Blue FC, and Atlanta Beat player, 3-time All-American defender at...

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Aug. 8, 2024

HSEL Season 11 Post-Match Show

In Episode 151, Phil and Paul discuss the key moments and leadership lessons from Season 11, reflecting on impactful conversations with guests like Todd Yelton, Lance VanHaitsma, Paul Gizzi, and Jessica Hain, as well as impactful topics such as...

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July 25, 2024

Empathy, Soccer IQ, and The Next Best Action with Jessica Hain, Found…

In Episode 150, Jessica Hain, Founder of The Fulcrum Center and former Head Coach of Liberty University Women’s Soccer, mother, and wife, talks with Phil and Paul about insights from coaching at the collegiate level to international experiences, the...

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July 11, 2024

Changing College Soccer Forever: The Recent NCAA Settlement

In Episode 149, Phil and Paul change it up a bit and dive into the recent NCAA settlement related to NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and its far-reaching implications for college sports. They discuss how the $2.7 billion settlement will impact various...

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June 27, 2024

How to Impact Lives and Create Lasting Memories with Paul Gizzi, So C…

In Episode 148, Paul Gizzi, So Cal Eagles’ Director of Advancement and Japan Ministries, talks with Phil and Paul about his decades-long leadership and ministry journey involving the beautiful game and lessons learned along the way, the importance...

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June 13, 2024

Through the Eyes of a Referee with Lance VanHaitsma, CONCACAF’s Refer…

In Episode 147, Lance VanHaitsma, CONCACAF’s Refereeing Technical and Development Manager, former Int’l Futsal Referee, and former Big 12 Referee, talks with Phil and Paul about his story and how he worked up the ranks of refereeing, life and...

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May 30, 2024

Transformed After Tragedy with Todd Yelton, Samford University Women’…

In Episode 146, Todd Yelton, Samford University Women’s Soccer Head Coach, husband, and father, talks with Phil and Paul about his ministry and coaching journey and lessons he has learned along the way, how his wife’s death transformed him and his...

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